看大家好像对linux很着迷,是的,我也着迷过,为它的免费、多样,以及所有不同与windows的适用体验,众多的发行版几乎试了个遍后,发现了一个问题,一个非常严重的问题。
如果,linux下没有完全兼容微软office文档的软件的话,我是不会把linux当作办公系统的。别跟我提OO,永中,wps什么的,都不行,也许只是查看文档,还凑合可以用用,但要是在格式上完全一致,还差得远。而且国内很多时候要求的稿件的格式似乎都是以微软的office为基础的,就拿“宋体四号字”这一简单的要求,linux下能实现吗?别跟我提“其实你可以把windows下的字体文件copy过来一份”,这样做不是剽窃?
的确,linux很有活力,有时候也很有用,我现在的电脑上就是同时安装了win和linux 的几个版本,linux大部分是用来修复系统的,工作时还是得老老实实的在win下。
唉,linux 迷们期望linux 一统天下,我也希望,但前体是得有一款好用的office,期望微软将他的office迁移到linux平台似乎是不可能的事,因此,还是老老实实的用win吧,很现实的理由。


abcglystone0 于 2010-04-15 15:29:44发表:
不错
cormano 于 2010-04-15 14:42:23发表:
{:2_96:}
hlaker 于 2010-04-14 16:28:35发表:
LINUX 你爱用不用 不用到这里喷.你甚至都不用到这里来注册 该干啥干啥去.
yqw1122 于 2010-04-14 11:46:23发表:
我是虚拟机中安装linux+xp,编程在linux下,普通应用在xp下
cwj356364202 于 2010-04-13 18:15:08发表:
支持楼主,挺不错的文章;
jensoncheng 于 2010-04-13 16:30:57发表:
现在我在我所有的邮件下面都带上这句话了,(做外贸的,只好用E文的了)
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This e-mail and its attachments were generated under LINUX system, it may be incompatible with WINDOWS system in some ways. I apologize for that in case you are actually using WINDOWS system.
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ddfox 于 2010-04-13 14:04:22发表:
同意楼主的意见!
当然也得分人群了。
如果是公司上班,那大部分是windows,除非电脑公司。
在高校科研院所,基本都是windows,因为各种项目申报什么的,都是windows得word文档。
目前如果是查看,可以通过pdf代替,但是很多是要修改的,pdf修改起来,不如word好用了。
当工资待遇跟电脑挂钩时,我想大部分人会义不容辞的返回windows了,呵呵,在这里讨论,可能还是有嘴硬的。
我跟楼主一样,基本都试了个遍。玩玩而已。真正用来创造价值的时候,还是得回去。
wangyu 于 2010-04-13 12:26:14发表:
我说的政府是欧洲的,中国短期内是不可能的
tupac 于 2010-04-13 11:55:15发表:
不是很了解
pl_014 于 2010-04-13 10:37:10发表:
我总觉的你的话说反了,至少咱中国就是这样,国家一级竞没有openoffice。再看那河北省计算机一级吧,是从省一级的,纯纯粹粹就是对我们linux人尊严的一种极其严重的践踏。
penny9053 于 2010-04-12 20:20:13发表:
其实学习Linux就是为了更好的了解电脑,学会了永远是自己的,而且总会能用上!!
ubuntulover 于 2010-04-12 18:38:03发表:
什么叫办公?用了office才叫办公吗?日常工作中,反正我是不用office。
shampoo 于 2010-04-12 15:37:36发表:
一个Office档案在Windows,我储存或打印都非常安心,
可是离开了Windows,总是疑东疑西的,
深怕多了这,少了那。
shampoo 于 2010-04-12 15:33:21发表:
把老虎桌上电脑的IE解除掉,
咱们猜猜,它还能开机么?呵呵。
我的经验是如此,
一。要更新IE
二。安装程序提醒必须解除旧版先
三。解除安装后,自动重新启动
四。再也起不来了!
别争说,不解除,强迫更新。
究竟逃不掉IE!
说白了,在某些地方,我就是怀疑火狐狸会踢到铁板。规格是人家定的,陷阱随人家摆的。
Dawnson 于 2010-04-12 15:16:03发表:
这话说得好!顶一个!wangyu 于 2010-04-12 14:50:28发表:
唉,PK又开始了。
政府是不会让微软做大的,IE不就是一个例子吗
lpy_study 于 2010-04-12 13:29:44发表:
随着Linux 的普及,,,,,,这些问题不再是问题
lpy_study 于 2010-04-12 13:28:50发表:
问题是会解决的。。。。。。。。。。。
shampoo 于 2010-04-12 12:40:23发表:
在人屋檐下,不得不低头,
既然,OA只是偶尔小事,我还是选择,把Windows开机,
也就用得方便,用得安心了。
shampoo 于 2010-04-12 12:36:43发表:
PDF确实是一个很好的方向!
输出打印有个道可走,
可是编辑器呢?
或许,就用XX Office转存为pdf,是么?
shampoo 于 2010-04-12 12:33:09发表:
少数服从多数,就是潮流!呵呵。
shampoo 于 2010-04-12 12:29:52发表:
苹果的历史比微软早一些!
再说,华人世界,苹果的用户不多。
OA的东西碰到华文系统,打印就是一个困扰。
chenxians 于 2010-04-12 12:24:08发表:
office 不过是工具而已啊,如果中国都不用MSoffice,你说情况会是怎么样的啊!!!!!!!!!!!
ftz01 于 2010-04-12 11:21:29发表:
我一直在用永中office,与微软office兼容很好,并且可以直接转pdf,可完全替代。
flute1 于 2010-04-12 09:49:56发表:
linux是真对高端区域所用的,主要用于科学计算,电信服务器等方面,window主要是低端用户,只是上上网,看电影,一些普通办公,效率要比Linux低的多。你不习惯用Linux,是因为你一开始就用的win和它图形界面,习惯了,也太简单了,所以你不习惯。如果以后全用linux了,你一开始就用linux,那你就认为linux是最好的,因为你已经习惯了,你也更加了解了。我听你那说话的口气,已经很不耐烦了,动不动就说“别跟我说........".太有点自傲!!!!你以为你懂吗?
你还差得远呢!!!
jensoncheng 于 2010-04-12 09:25:22发表:
哈,我也是主要用LINUX办公的,你这个做法很好,我也要采用,谢谢了
另外说一句,楼主是先把MS作为自己的标准然后再来以此为标准要求其它的格式。
rzzs 于 2010-04-12 07:55:01发表:
办公那点事儿,在linux下是完全胜任的,只不过若以msoffice为标准的话却不便实现,可是为什么要一定以msoffice做国际标准呢?
刘冲 于 2010-04-12 01:17:16发表:
10 Things Linux Does Better Than Windows
posted by Kroc Camen on Fri 9th Apr 2010 10:29 UTC
Icon"To be clear about this article's intent, it's not to bash Microsoft, or Windows. Because to be fair, despite using Linux 95% of the time while I'm on the PC, I can find more faults with it than Windows. So, this article's goal is to highlight some of the major pluses of Linux, and also showcase where Windows could improve in the future, should Microsoft take heed of the suggestions."
Disclaimer: Unlike the article author, I am not a full time Linux user; ergo, my complaints are from an opposite perspective that the better informed Linx user (that is, you dear readers) will see as an attempt at trolling. Now I can’t fool you, but I tell it how I see it and I hope that this will actually help in the discussion with the topic at hand--what Linux does that Windows could do better. The extra info you provide to make Linux better for me is always very useful.
1. Partitioning
Rob Williams (the article author) provides GParted as example. Almost anything is better than diskmgmt.msc. However, the author should have mentioned that the command line tool DISKPART provides much more power, though still without the ability to handle non-Microsoft filesystems.
2. Activation
Agreed; just a few weeks ago I had to deal with a false positive on a Vista computer. The customers had no idea how to deal with it. The activation warning was unhelpful, stating that the machine was in fact illegitimate, and no link was provided to activate the machine; I had to use search to find Vista’s OOBE and phone Microsoft.
When false positives hit, it hurts only legitimate customers. How Microsoft can continue to do this to users is beyond me. The news may be full of all the scary new ways Apple are restricting the iPhone and iPad, but OS X has no anti-piracy measures, no activation, no licence keys--and Linux has no concept of a pirate copy in the first place.
3. Customisation
That double-edged sword. It’s all down to how it’s presented and the effort that has gone into making it difficult for the user to shoot themselves in the foot. KDE versions prior to 4 are known for being particular extreme when it comes to customising opportunities, with the user dumped into a badly chosen set of defaults and expected to sort it out themselves. Things have improved, and KDE 4 shows a side of customisation that is less MySpace and more interior decorating.
4. Automatic User Login
Is control userpasswords2 actually documented? Where are you supposed to find this out? In Linux, the option is easier to find than arcane run-box magic.
But I have this memory niggling at the back of my mind; oh yes! That for a long time, GNOME network manager would ask you for your chainring password every time if you had autologin enbaled, and that this bug persisted for two or more releases of Ubuntu before getting fixed. I’m still angry about that. How could it be so low priority to make autologin unusable for two years!?
5. Troubleshooting
Definitely a tough one to quantify, especially given that I fix PCs for a living and generally know how to get out of a bind in Windows. Windows always fails though when it comes to data. In Linux, you can backup the home directory and know that you should be able to transplant it to another system. In Windows, your data is scattered everywhere and since Vista, is basically untransplantable (USMT is useless) unless you were wise enough to have a backup. You do do backups, right?
6. No-Nonsense OS Updates
Except for that time when I updated Ubuntu from 8.10 to 9.04 and the update process called for key-presses to continue, which was impossible to know unless you expanded the details view to show the command buffer and had realised it had paused waiting for a key. Not forgetting that the update hosed the system afterwards anyway.
Anyway, that’s just one bad experience. Windows is certainly no better (ever had a crash half way through a service-pack install?) Linux has the benefit that packages of all kinds are managed universally across the install, and that updates encompass all software on the machine. Windows software has scattered update mechanisms, and even though OS X has no Apple-provided third-party update mechanism, developers have more or less all agreed upon using Sparkle, so it’s still better than what Windows users have to endure (Would you like the Yahoo toolbar with that Java update?).
7. Easy Installation of Common Applications
The most refreshing thing about Linux software is that you know that installing it is very unlikely to invite along a whole ton of stuff you didn’t ask for that appears every time you start your computer. Being a Windows user is a chore, keeping the startup clean; it is just something about the Windows environment that is unlike both Mac OS X and Linux, where by vendors feel the irressistable urge to abuse your machine. It’s like screwing over users is the culture on Windows. I have to deal with this every day, with customers innocently trying to get the basics on their computer (because Microsoft don’t provide the basics with the OS anymore) and getting a whole ton of crap they didn’t ask for.
If anything, getting only what you asked for is the most refreshing part of Linux for an end-user.
8. Interoperability
Linux has to work extra hard here to work alongside Microsoft, who have erected road blocks at every stage. Dual booting is a pain because NTLDR/BCD choose to be ignorant of choice and neither has Microsoft been exactly forthcoming with interoperable SMB. The fact interoperability works at all in Linux is testament to the hard graft done on their part.
9. Command Line
The history of command line functionality in Windows is long, boring and uneventful. The only interesting thing to happen in twenty years ended up sidelined because Microsoft didn’t ship Monad (PowerShell) with the OS. I suppose it all helps sell copies of Visual Studio, or something.
10. Performance & Stability
Whereby two whole podcast episodes and a few hundred comments were devoted to X alone. Not being a full time Linux user, this is one that’s hard to quantify. Every experience I’ve had with Linux has been unstable. The variables that contribute though are so many (hardware support for one); so given Microsoft’s massive advantageous position in this regard, Linux does surprisingly well in this. In fact, all major OSes are pretty stable now and stability debates feel a lot like taking a trip back to 2001.
Windows has had to deal with unstable third parties forever, and the OS wraps functionality around providing stability when things go wrong. On the other hand, Linux seems to treat stability as Somebody Else’s Problem. If X crashes, blame the driver. Blame anybody. It doesn’t matter whose fault it is, you should be mitigating the damaging effects to the user. Crashes will happen. Throwing blame around when the user just lost their data is no good because the user will blame you. In this regard, I have to say that Windows 7 is simply the leader in being both stable, and dealing with crap when it happens.
刘冲 于 2010-04-11 22:45:31发表:
大宝做的的确不错.
pl_014 于 2010-04-11 22:21:52发表:
4# cnbtoo
你倒底是哪来的家伙,不懂linux就别来这里惑众。
rapistor 于 2010-04-11 20:18:15发表:
http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=263182&start=0
已经有人做了初步的odf兼容测试了。
rapistor 于 2010-04-11 20:05:45发表:
MS 的office2010兼容odf格式,以后文件都用odf应该就不会存在兼容的问题了。
已经有试用版出来了,不知道有人试过没有?
wangyu 于 2010-04-11 19:00:06发表:
用的就是永中,编好后在Word上试了下,莫名其妙的多了好多黑点
hncdcsm1 于 2010-04-11 17:21:44发表:
啊,杯具啊,的确在linux下的office格式与MS office不一样,确实很麻烦
hancerone 于 2010-04-11 17:07:11发表:
兼容个屁,100%兼容是不可能的!对日常办公应用来说,微软的office系统和永中、wps或是OOo都完全能够胜任。只不过是因为系统平台的占有率决定了微软office的一统天下!反过来也是一样!所以不是linux不能胜任办公,而是因为它没有先占领市场!用户就先入为主了而已!
yiningzoe 于 2010-04-11 17:00:43发表:
确实是大部分人的办公{:2_93:}
pclgb 于 2010-04-11 15:32:01发表:
我 就用永中,觉得挺好就是 中文输入法有 点 ?烦
hantu 于 2010-04-11 14:58:13发表:
干嘛非要兼容微软的office文档啊,也许以后微软还得尽力去兼容别人呢
自由fei 于 2010-04-11 14:43:30发表:
3# 大宝
真厉害,佩服。不过我想知道,你们公司是干什么的?在中国,能做到这样的能有几家?
shen.yhx 于 2010-04-11 14:42:33发表:
无所谓,标准是人定的。只要大家都是用openoffice,微软的就不是标准了。而且,微软也是取代了别的系统而成为主流的。好用才是第一位的。